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April 14, 2008 10:01 PM PDT

Rocker Peter Gabriel offers Filter to cut through online clutter

Posted by Greg Sandoval
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Peter Gabriel wants to save Internet users from drowning in information

(Credit: Petergabriel.com)

Internet users are awash in information every time they search for new videos, music, or books online, says rocker Peter Gabriel.

One of the founders of the rock group Genesis and the creator of the iconic solo album So, is an investor in The Filter, a recommendation engine that now offers to help users cut through clutter on the Web and find the kind of content that will appeal to them.

Until now, The Filter has operated mostly in Europe as a music discovery service. A redesigned site is now offering to find a much wider array of content, Gabriel told CNET News.com on Monday. On Tuesday, the service is scheduled to begin allowing invitees to help test the site, which will be opened to the public sometime next month.

"When you drown people in an ocean of information, you've got to give them navigation tools," Gabriel said. "I know that there is better stuff out there than what I generally am exposed to...So if I have a sort of intelligent ally working with me 24 hours a day, I think I have a much better chance of getting the stuff that will entertain, excite, and inspire me."

"When you drown people in an ocean of information, you've got to give them navigation tools."
--Peter Gabriel

When it comes to improving the experience of searching the Web for music and other entertainment content, technology has mostly come up short. Despite a plethora of specially designed search engines, it's still not easy to find material that appeals to you. Certainly, few search engines, if any, provide better results than Google.

According to Gabriel, The Filter's system sizes up a lot of information before spitting out suggestions.

It runs a person's past searches, purchases, and site visits through a new set of filters that may include the opinions of friends, favorite critics or reviewers--whatever the user wants. Executives at The Filter also say their algorithm can make recommendations that cut across different entertainment platforms.

Say, for example, you like film director Ridley Scott's Blade Runner. The Filter can use that to suggest certain songs.

"At the moment, there is nothing in Google that I know of that allows me to put in my taste and get recommendations," Gabriel said. "I can research and go quite deep in one direction. One great navigation tool is your taste. We allow you to integrate your taste and choices with your friend, your favorite musician, film director, or whatever."

Freedom from choice
Gabriel isn't slumming it in the tech sector.

Sure, the 58-year-old is famous for his stands on social issues, in addition to churning out hit songs for more than 40 years. (Ask yourself if we would love Lloyd Dobler or boom boxes as much without Gabriel's help in the cult film Say Anything).

He co-founded On Demand Distribution, once the largest digital-music service in Europe, before selling it in 2000 to Loudeye, a company acquired by Nokia in 2006 that provided music delivery platforms. Gabriel also helped develop games on CD-ROM.

The son of an electrical engineer, Gabriel said he has never written any code, but he loves kicking ideas around with creative people.

"I inherited my father's enthusiasm for technology, but not his skills," he quipped.

Gabriel wants to combine his music and tech passions. He says being bombarded by data only serves to discourage people from hunting for what they want.

He remembers a conversation he had years ago with a friend about how much freedom the Internet provided. His friend said something that stuck with him: "Maybe there is a deeper yearning out there for freedom from choice."

Greg Sandoval covers media and digital entertainment for CNET News. He is a former reporter for The Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times. E-mail Greg.
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What is a Recommendation Engine?
by dascha1 April 15, 2008 4:53 AM PDT
My brother-in-law says he likes it when listening to Internet
Radio Feeders that if a song by Queen plays he then hears a
song that was released/popular around the same time. My view,
problem becomes when the Station's Program Manager and the
Listening Audience both require their Requests at the same time
(i.e. DJ's response is, can't play it now as our Program manager
has a policy to play what is scheduled).

Go figure Peter - and while you're at it, get a Music Industry
college degree with a focus on Natural Language Processing and
Extraction.
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Shannon 101
by Len Bullard April 15, 2008 6:24 AM PDT
That's the gray goo of a multiple selector. It's Shannon 101: given any set of choices, what selector causes one to be preferred, then if multiple selectors are applied, do they result in a different choice? You can apply weighting criteria or any other control variable in a second order system or go to a third order system to control the variables selected. Just remember that multiple controls on the same input/output are a recipe for chaos.

Taste based systems (filters) are golems. Useful until they become authoritative; then they become monstrous. Such is the case with policies that don't adapt such as a program manager's playlist. Look for hidden couplers. For example where once payola required payments of some form to station managers, the legal way is to buy ads.

If we cling to our tastes, we become old school rather quickly. If we have no tastes, we become lemmings. What I want the filter to do is connect things from very different domains so my tastes will evolve by differentiation instead of getting locked into a sub-optimum minima.

Good luck, Gabriel. As always, you are pulling the train.
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by hparkeragain April 15, 2008 7:43 AM PDT
You know, I'm sure Peter Gabriel is a visionary. But please, if the site he's pushing is not even available for use, why write about it? Just silly. Maybe you should have Hulk Hogan promote Duke Nukem next on the front page.
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Like pandora.com
by kieranmullen April 15, 2008 8:34 AM PDT
Except for it doesn't stream music and allows for video matching in tastes?

KieranMullen
http://www.360Oregon.com
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Well, prefer a 'toolkit' rather than just listening
by dascha1 April 15, 2008 10:22 AM PDT
An Internet Radio toolkit for pro's would be a better suit. I mean,
why can't you run your own Radio Station?
The advise of an washed up rock star
by maxo3 April 15, 2008 9:12 AM PDT
That's all we need in life to be happy. I think we should pay him millions for his insight.
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Too Much Information?
by i_made_this April 15, 2008 9:51 AM PDT
Gabriel's not the average elder statesman of rock. He's a very smart guy who started pushing the envelope of audio technology as early as his first solo albums in the 1970's. He started his own website to distribute his own musical content back in the early 1990's (online.net - now defunct).

His 2008 investor group's idea is a good one but it's already been done with mixed results legally and excellent results musically. The Music Genome Project's musical taste profiling radio service www.pandora.com is pretty darn good - surprisingly so - but they were taken off-line a few months ago in UK due to an apparent conflict with certain British telecomm regs.

In any event, Pandora's available in the USA - and the Pandora media player is based on OpenLaszlo, to make it a useful cross-platform service. If such a service as Gabriel describes is of interest to you, I recommend giving pandora.com a try.

The most useful way to test the quality of its AI algorithm is to enter a very obscure recording artist as the base for your first personal station creation and test Pandora's talent.
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Another Fluff-filter site, just adding more fluff
by Mats Svensson April 15, 2008 2:30 PM PDT
Great, ANOTHER site where you have to sign up to get inside so you can find out if its worth the bother to sign up.

I must have 1000 throw-away acccounts at sites like that.

I wish you could install a filter (without signing up somewhare) so you never had to even hear about sites like that ever again.
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by galacticgufus May 11, 2008 9:21 PM PDT
i think the line about 'freedom from choice' sums up the position of the record industry in a succinct manner
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